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Eldon Stahl

Eldon Stahl
Member since : Jan-18-2009 (Verified)
8 Ideas, 6 Comments, 23 Votes

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I recently had to tell a Home Schooling Parent that their son could not yet join because he was not yet seven years old, and had to wait another year to join, even though he had completed Kindergarten already. Maybe this is more of a gripe than an idea, but from what I understand, Cub Scout joining requirements are to make sure boys are presented with age-appropriate activities. However, I would suggest that if a boy is able to pass the academic requirements of a certain grade, he has also shown that he is ready to do other stuff in Scouting that is of similar level. Perhaps, HOme Schooling boys could go by the grade rule rather than the age rule. Just a thought. Of course, their parents are generally quite involved in their sons' lives, and often make great volunteers. Thoughts?
Moderator Comments
10/27/2009
From: Gary Butler

Yes you are correct. The age and grade requirements for Cub Scouting have been established to match the age appropriateness of not only Cub Scouting, but as the youth grows and matures, they will encounter age appropriate activities in Boy Scouting and Venturing.
When volunteers fill out the adult application, they almost always seem to forget to fill out the right hand column unless specifically instructed to do so. Could this column be highlighted or at least question number six, so that we don't have to go back to as many folks and say, "oops, you missed this part, but so did everyone else :)"?
Moderator Comments
2/10/09
From: Gary Butler, Council Solutions Group Director

Changing human nature is never easy. We will pass on to Membership Resources for consideration next time the applications are revised.
Would it be possible to modify the adult application so we can note which merit badges people are counselors for? This way, when we go to Scoutnet, we could run a report on who the counselors are for and what subjects there are counselors for. Or, even better, we could run a report by merit badge subject to see where we have counselors and where ther are holes for certain subjects.

As it is now, we can get a list of registered merit badge counselors, but this list must be entered into a separate spreadsheet kept by the district and then put in the subject people are counseling for and whether they wish to help out with all troops or just certain ones, etc. Then, when rechartering comes around, this list must be modified. In any case, this can be fairly time consuming. Perhaps a scannable Merit Badge Counselor info sheet would be the way to go? That way, the additional info would be into the national database.

Also, when a person signs up as a Venturing Program Consultant, as it is now, it's the same code for merit badge counselor on the application, so when we run a report, sometimes it's not known if that person is a Program Consultant or Merit Badge Counselor. They are similar, but really different roles. Could a new code possibly be created for Venturing Program Consultants (or Exploring Consultants)?
Moderator Comments
2/10/09
From: Gary Butler, Council Solutions Group Director

Your suggestions have been forwarded to the Youth Development Team along with Information Systems for consideration next time an enhancement is done to PAS.
now that the new uniform came out, it seems Venturing is stuck in the past. Any possibility of updating the recommended Venturing uniform, too?
Why not have a special ceremony developed for Boy Scouts to Venturing? If Venturing really is Scouting's next step, couldn't we have a bridging ceremony at an Eagle Scout ceremony when a boy officially joins a Crew? Also, could we let a Boy Scout get a head start on Venturing advancement with Eagle Scout, or have the first parts of Venturing (Oath, Code, sign, etc.) built into the Eagle Scout award, just like the AO Light does for Boy Scouts? Could we have the transition to Venturing, or even Exploring built into the advancement?...visit a Post or Crew or Ship, or whatever?...
Moderator Comments
2/12/09
From: Sam Thompson, Membership Impact Department Manager

Under consideration pending resources available.

2/10/09
From: Gary Butler, Council Solutions Group Director

Does not appear the idea received favorable response from the readers, however it has been passed on to the Membership Impact Department for further consideration
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The Career Interest survey is divided into clusters, but from what I understand, it is not in the cluster groups that counselors generally recognize. When an executive goes and tries to sell the idea of running the surveys, the information gathered is not as useful to the counselors as it could be. Could we get a group of counselors and scouters together to revise this to make it more in line with what both would benefit from? Also, going from bubble sheets to scannable applications where the machine reads the writing would be an improvement, for sure. When we tell counselors or administrators it will take 10 minutes, sometimes they gasp due to the huge time pressures they are sometimes under. Taking it down to 5 minutes would increase the number of surveys completed.
Moderator Comments
1/20/09
From: John Anthony, Learning for Life Director

Nationally States are moving to a 16 career cluster pathway; we are reviewing our career clusters accordingly. There is a scannable career interest survey that you may purchase from supply which works with your council's membership scanner.
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Why not have a national Venturing site that provides templates for Crews to have their own sites. If it had social networking capabilitites, it would be even better. This could be sold as just another program support offered for Venturing or an option in the charter that costs X$ per year. Also, if someone was looking to be a part of Venturing, they could browse this by geographic area, or area of interest. Crews could network themselves at the grassroots level to do activities. National could send notes and notices about events, advertisements could be put out, etc. and this could even function as an e-magazine for the Venturing program, whereas now Boys' Life is trying to do that, but it seems something more is needed. Too many crews are lacking this networking, and they feel alone.
Moderator Comments
2/18/09
From: Michael Ramsey, Director of Brand Management

A template for Venturing web sites is a possibility when the new Content Management System comes on line, pending budget and resources, of course.

Another opportunity for networking is to use the new Scouting Community to set up Venturing networks, with in regions, councils, and districts. A very powerful tool. Check it out.
Skype is a very useful tool that I've found can help save a lot of money. I just switched my cell plan to 500 minutes from 900 because of it. Here are some of the features Skype offers and how they could be helpful:

Instant messaging: Skype offers instant messaging, but it also has the ability to archive the conversation, unlike MSN instant messenger. It's free to download. Instant messaging is much quicker than sending someone a one or two worded message.

Long Distance Calling: Skype allows the user to make calls from his or her computer over the internet for free to other computers and at very low rates to cell phones and land lines. It has a subscription service where a person can call any land phone in the US for a flat rate of $3 a month. To make this easier, they are marketing through Wal-Mart the 2-in-one phone that lets people use a regular handset phone to make and receive calls either through a landline or through the internet via Skype. So, when I'm home and want to make long distance calls, i use Skype. Imagine how much money this can save. There is a way to set up voicemail with Skype and to assign a caller ID so people know who is calling.

Phone Conferences/video conferences
We spend a lot on phone conferences in my area since we are so spread out. Why not do them on Skype for free? Only the host, really, would have to have a computer. The rest could be on landlines. They could have video conferences with those who have a webcam. Why not call a meeting when people can be on, rather than spend transportation and lodging/food costs, do some training this way, etc?

Sending money via Paypal:
Skype offers the feature of sending money this way to a person's contacts.
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Eldon Stahl 10 months ago
This has got to be one of the best and innovative ideas I have read. Nice job thinking outside the box!
Eldon Stahl 10 months ago
I don't think this is such a bad idea. At first, I was skeptical. But, think about it...Scouting is a GAME WITH A PURPOSE. We use games in scouting to teach all the time. Video games have indeed come a long way and are becoming more interactive, especially with the Wii. Young people learn values or lack of them on video games all the time. They have to make decisions, especially in games that simulate reality. Would it be too much of a stretch to come up with a game that would teach ethical decision making (seems like that's one thing we're striving for with the BSA)? In fact, in video games could not only be used to make youth outside of scouting aware of it, but they could be integrated into the program itself...have you ever noticed the power in teaching that sharing a video clip from a Hollywood movie has to make a point over using Power Point, lecturing, etc?

Using video games as a teaching resource in Scouting could show that Scouting can start where boys are comfortable. Think about it... they play some games because they are things that they would like to do... flight simulator, wii golf, wii fishing, whatever. Much can be taught through a simulator in a safe environment, and get boys excited about doing the real thing. Using a new twist on an old method of teaching through games could help overcome the idea that Scouting is old fashioned or not cool. Do you think John Madden Football gets boys excited about the real thing? I think the NFL is onto something here. I also notice they tend to go into football, rather than transfer into Boy Scouting. Hmmmm.....
Eldon Stahl 10 months ago
Yes, this would be a good extension of the Cinematography merit badge. Actually, making short videos that a person can share on Youtube will probably be a skill people will need more and more in the future. There are so many ways this skill could be used to enhance communication skills/presentation skills. I don't see why there seems to be so many folks against this idea.
Eldon Stahl 10 months ago
Where? I keep asking my higher ups about where to get this survey that works with our membership scanner, but nobody seems to have an idea where to get it. Who do I need to talk with to get this survey that works with our membership scanner? We had someone a ways back tell us it existed too, and now, trying to actually get a hold of one is not working.
Eldon Stahl 10 months ago
I could probably spend a whole day generating a report of who is trained in x or y, cross referencing that with the codes for training courses, etc... we're supposed to know who is trained and what training they need, especially the "direct contact leaders" and trying to get this info is like sucking our time into a black hole!
Eldon Stahl 10 months ago
Yes, I agree, however, I prefer Meetup.com as a platform since it lends itself well to giving tips for grassroots organization and for getting together in the real world. My district does have a Meetup site, and it's ok, but trying to get the general membership of the district to use it has been a chore, but it has been useful for being able to plan an event or meeting for the district and have all that info in one place. Quite useful that way. Still trying to get the other members to see the light. Younger leaders seem more adept to communicating this way.