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Erik Karre

Erik Karre
Member since : Oct-25-2008 (Verified)
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It's not a big deal, but I know it really confuses a unit when they see a letter other than a "Y" or a "N" under the Boys Life column on rosters and recharters. Right now there are often "I" under that column. I'm not sure what the "I" means, but doesn't it make sense just to either have a "Y" or an "N" for "Yes" and "No" and not have any other letters?

The "Stat" column. I'm sure that means something to some people, but is it necessary? If it is, what do the codes mean?

There were a few other posts that talk about this, but adding an e-mail address on the roster for the adults if we have one on file.

What about adding the name or names of parents underneath the name of each boy? I do know sometimes I need to get in touch with a parent or perhaps want to recruit a parent to serve as a district volunteer, but if it is akward if I don't have a parent's name. I know you can find them if you look up each boy individuall or do a membership registrant print selection in ScoutNet. Something like "son of xxxxxxxxx" could appear under the name of each boy. This also will help because sometimes a parent's last name is different than the child's.

Is have the rank of the boy important to have on the roster? I've always been told to ignore the rank on the roster because the advancement system doesn't always talk to the membership system. If I really want an advancement report to know what ranks boys are, I would create a detailed advancement report.
Moderator Comments
9/27/2009
From: Sandi Trevino, Membership Administrator, Membership Resources Team

Thank you for your suggestions on the Unit Roster report. First let me address two questions you posed;

In regards to the Boys’ Life indicator, I indicates Individual subscription while B indicates Bulk subscription. Generally you will see Y for yes, but for units that have some subscriptions delivered in bulk to one recipient, B and I are used to indicate which subscriptions are being delivered to the Bulk Recipient and which are being delivered to the subscribers home.

In regards to the “Stat” column, this indicates which registrants are Reregistered, Separated Reregistered, New, Transferred, Multiple (registered but paid in another position or unit).

In conclusion, adding e-mail address and parent information to the Unit Roster would provide valuable information for council staff and unit leaders on one report . Sometimes it is a matter of not enough “real estate” on the report. We will review the current roster layout to see if we can add email address and an optional prompt to include parent information when requested and whether we should continue to include Rank.
I've had lots of leaders suggest that an updated version of the Introduction to Outdoor Leader Training be created. They have lots of ideas on how to improve it and add to it. Perhaps even an advanced outdoor leader training could be created. I do know there are lots of individual courses such as Climb on Safety and others have been created that deal with specific areas, but perhaps something could be created that incorperates GPS usage, basic survival, and other advanced programs. I even have a troop that has developed a very successful six stage survival program that starts very basic and the fifth and sixth steps are very diffucult. I can't speak for all leaders, but I know my leaders in my district want more out of outdoor leader training.
Moderator Comments
5/3/09

From: Gary Butler, National Director, Council Solutions Group

A full review of the Outdoor Leader Training is underway by a task force. Your suggestions have been forwarded to them for inclusion in their discussions.
I am the new staff advisor for the Order of the Arrow and I thought of this idea. What if we were to create a national online "Where to go camping guide." It could be such that a person could click on a particular state and see the different camping facilities, both public and private that are available in that particular state. It could almost be like a Google map with camping facilities pointed out. The ones that are public would be easy to include. Those that are private might include some information like the owners contact information. I have a land owner near my community that is making his property available to any Scout group that wants it, he just needs a phone call to make sure someone else isn't using the property. Those that are private, but not willing to be made available to everyone you wouldn't include. There could be a filter function that would allow you to filter by state, type of ammenities available (water, sewer, showers, primative, boating, swimming, sking, rappeling, climbing, backpacking, etc.), BSA property, state park, and other such filters. There could also be the opportunity for those who attend those camps to give a reivew of them. Similar to other pages on the internet like when you stay at a hotel or purchase something online. It could also include photos of the properities. This could be maintained like they do with sites like Wikepedia where the users are the ones who help maintain the site. This would be a large undertaking by the National Office to do something like this, but if you had users update it, it wouldn't be nearly as time consuming. It would be a great way for our Packs, Troops, and Crews to find new places to camp throughout the country.
Moderator Comments
5/5/09
From: Frank Reigelman, Outdoor Programs Manager

We will route this to the Web team to assess the practicality of a nation-wide guide.
I've gotten this suggestion from several volunteers and I agree with it myself. On the unit rosters and on the internet rechartering, it would be great if the youth in Cub Scouts could be grouped by grade and then by last name. I understand that you might have some kids, that becuase of their rank, would be different, but to make it easier to search for a boy, it would be great if they could group them in this order: Tiger Cubs, Cub Scouts, and Webelos Scouts. Then within each of those, group them by grade and then by last name. It's not a big deal when you only have 3-4 boys in a particular grade, but when you get to 10-20 boys in a grade and the names spill over onto a second page, it makes it a little confusing to find them quickly.
Moderator Comments
1/8/09
From: Marty Walsh, Membership Resources Team Leader

Next revision of internet rechartering will look at this as a sorting option.
I've seen a lot of suggestions on this site about having a Boy Scout You Tube channel and putting the audio/visuals online.

The challenge I see in doing this is that it costs the National Office who knows how much to put together every PSA, training DVD, and anything else that is produced. If everything is made available online, then how can the National Office recoup the costs associated with producing the material to begin with.

Well, here is my suggestion:
There could be a site, perhaps through MyScouting where not only the PSA's and training videos could be placed, but perhaps many of the items the National Office produces. Perhaps the leader manuals, training syllabi, District/Council Manuals, image library, radio/audio materials, brochures, flyers, etc. could all be put online. Then, for a fee payable each year, each council would then get access to that site. That site could also be made available to units as well for a site license fee.

Then, depending on the media and how it is to be used, the videos, images, audio, etc. could be burned to a CD or a DVD and used as it was intended.

By doing this, the councils, districts, and units would have access to the most current information. If you have to change a requirement or update something, you can just change it online rather than having to print out thousands of DVDs or thousands of new leader books.

The downside to doing this, however, would be that if enough people were to use it, it may make printing up hard copies of the materials more expensive.

I'm open to suggestions or ideas.
Moderator Comments
2/18/09
From: Michael Ramsey, Director of Brand Management

The BSA is currently developing a YouTube channel that will be an online location dedicated to Scouting AV materials. It will be a channel on YouTube dedicated to Scouting. (official nonprofit status). Watch for it in March 2009.

There have been discussions of a pay for content, but only discussions. As you know much of our training material is currently available for free on our site. We are careful not to create barriers to content that would benefit local councils, districts or units, or limit access to material necessary to deliver a safe program.
Here are a couple of suggested changes to the adult application. If others have additional suggestions, post a comment.

The place for the e-mail is not longer enough. Many people have e-mail addresses that are longer than the space currently available, particularly after the @ symbol.

It would also be nice if there was space for multiple e-mail addresses.

The right-hand column is often missed when filling out the application. Would it be possible to move that from the right side to either the left side or perhaps just below their personal information and just above their signature.
Moderator Comments
3/2/09
From: Sam Thompson, Membership Impact Department Manager

Good idea and currently being studied for future implementation.
We all have leaders that change position during the year within a unit, particularly those that go from being a Tiger Den Leader to a Wolf Den Leader or a Bear Den Leader to a Webelos Den Leader or any other host of combinations in Cub Scouts, Boy Scouts, and Venturing. Right now the only way to change a leader's position is wait to do it at recharter time or have them fill out a new adult application.

I understand and completely support the fact that the Committee Chair and the Chartered Organization Representative as well as the Scout Executive or Designee need to sign off on that change. Is there a possibility of developing some sort of one page form that would allow a unit to change a leader's position mid-year without having to go through all the paperwork of filling out a new adult application? The appropriate signatures could still be on it as needed, but the form could be very simple and allow these sort of changes within a single unit.

My suggestion would only be applicable if a leader was changing positions within a single unit. If they were transferring to another unit, I could understand the need for a new adult application.

By doing this, the right leaders would receive the right information. As an example, when getting ready for the Webelos to Scout transition process, my Scoutmasters want to know who the 1st and 2nd year Webelos Leaders are. Unless they fill out a new adult application or wait till recharter, I won't know for sure who the Webelos I den leader is.
Moderator Comments
3/13/09
From: Gary Butler, Council Solutions Group Director

A very good suggestion that has had on-going discussion around. Being considered again to see if it can be done with a more simple form.
It would be wonderful if we would be able to look up a specific unit and see what leaders and trained and what leaders are untrained in a specific unit through MyBSA. It would also be nice to see what specific courses they've had and what one's they need. If it lists a course they've had there should be a date next to it as well saying when they took the course.

Right now you can look up an entire districts training statistics or look up a certain position and see who is trained and untrained, but no way to look up an entire unit.

I would like to easily print off easy-to-read reports to share with my units of which of their Top Leaders, Direct Contact Leaders, etc. have taken which trainings.
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Erik Karre 4 months ago
I didn't know how to put this, but I'm in favor of an individual's rights. It's legal for adults to smoke, particularly outdoors. Smoking laws vary from state to state. Where this topic particularly is in that gray area is when you state looking specifically at the aims of Scouting. One of the aims is being physically fit. I remember that in leading New Leader Essentials training they gave several examples of how to be physically fit. One of them was refraining from tobacco use. I did a quick search of the National BSA site with the search term "smoking." The first result to come up was an excerpt from the Guide to Safe Scouting which can be found here: http://www.scouting.org/scoutsource/HealthandSafety/GSS/gss04.aspx
Here is the test of that portion of the guide:
"Adult leaders should support the attitude that young adults are better off without tobacco and may not allow the use of tobacco products at any BSA activity involving youth participants.

All Scouting functions, meetings, and activities should be conducted on a smoke-free basis, with smoking areas located away from all participants."

In training we also talk about setting the example for the boys. If we expect the boys to wear uniforms, the adults need to wear the uniforms. If we expect the boys to have a positive attitude and deal with conflicts in an appropriate manner, we also have to do the same.

Our Good Turn for America project focuses on Hunger, Homelessness, and Health.

All around us the BSA is saying, in my opinion, that tobacco has no place in our organization.

Again, I do believe that smoking is an individual's right. This is a very gray area. I guess it comes down to one question, are we creating a double standard by allowing tobacco use on BSA property or at Scouting events?
Erik Karre 6 months ago
Maybe even have a downloadable catalog that contains everything.
Erik Karre 6 months ago
It would also be great if it was available in color. Even if it isn't printed in color, it would be great if it could be available for download in color. One thing I did for my packs is to take the large poster that was used as a part of the last version of Cub Scout Leader Specific Training and shrink it down to a 8 1/2 x 11 size and gave them to my leaders. The insignia placement guides available in the Insignia Guide, on the Uniform Inspection Sheets, and in the Scouts' books are great, but 99 times out of 100 my leaders prefer a full color version opposed to the black and white version.
Erik Karre 6 months ago
Great idea, but think about this a couple of different way.

If you charge everyone the same fee and they renew that fee the same month each year, your treasurer will have to keep track of when each person pays. Scout "A" pays $10 in May will need to pay the same again in May of the following year. Scout "B" paid their fee in February will need to pay the same again in the following year.

Another way a unit might do it is charge them $10 regardless of when they join and charge them again in December or whenever your unit recharters.

I've also seen units just charge $10 in September or another time of year. Without going into a lot of detail, when the Webelos cross over in February, the unit is paying for a boy, but the boy isn't paying the pack.

The reason for the prorated fees is so the fee is far to everyone.

I suggest to my units to charge the prorated fee when they join and then in December, or whenever your units recharter, to charge them for one full year.

Great idea and it's always good to hear other ways of doing things, but in my opinion, the prorated fee is the fairest way to do it.
Erik Karre 10 months ago
I think this is a great idea, but I'm a little confused if this means just registration or rechartering as well. I'm personally ok with the paper registrations, however, it would be great to do online rechartering for Exploring and for Learning for Life Groups. I'm not sure if there is something particular about these programs that would prevent them from rechartering online, but it would be great if they could.
Erik Karre 10 months ago
Would it be possible for the unit leader to designate someone to serve as the tour permit coordinator in the unit? Perhaps that person could register on MyScouting and the Unit Leader can designate that person by virtue of their Membership ID number.
Erik Karre 10 months ago
If it wouldn't be too complicated, perhaps he user can specify which tools they want on the home page. Perhaps they could create links under a favorite column that would allow them access to their favorite or most often used tools.
Erik Karre 11 months ago
A couple of other things I noticed as I was going through recharters.

We ask for the drivers license number on the adult application, but we don't ask for the expiration date. In previous applications we asked for the expiration date. I don't know if it is necessary or not, but if it is, it needs to be added.

On some adults, the mailing address and business address is longer than the boxes allow space for. This is also true on the occupation and employer.

As far as I know, I've never seen a business address appear on any report. Is there really a need for the business address? If you use the employer as a potential donor, then it could be handy, but otherwise, is it really necessary.

Is there other information on the application that can be eliminated to save the volunteer from filling out so much?
Erik Karre 1 year ago
I also agree that there has to be an easier way to pull up the specifics you need. If I need to look at a specific unit or community, you have to go though a lot of clicking and waiting. You should be able to use some sort of tree method to get to what you specifically want.
Erik Karre 1 year ago
I agree with the customization of the forms. I have some donors that like to keep the card and just send it in. If there is a good way to customize the fields and include additional information that is locally desired. Perhaps the e-mail address you said before. We've even talked about allowing a donor to committ to a dollar amount for up to three years.
Erik Karre 1 year ago
I don't think the term matters as much as the content. You can change the terms all you want, but we need a solid plan with videos, hands-on activities, and information.
Erik Karre 1 year ago
I think it is a good idea. I would also like to add that perhaps once a year the National Office could send out a CD with every current usable image or video we have on file. That may take using a DVD rather than a CD as there are lots of photos. The other thought would be to provide a downloadable zip file that would have all the images in them. I tried downloading a bunch of images a while back and after about 10 minutes on a highspeed connection, it stopped downloading. I even tried using a download accelerator and it couldn't down the files that way either.
Erik Karre 1 year ago
I like the idea. I don't know if a telephone system is able to do that or not. In many councils, there are several area codes and some area codes cross council lines. I think it is a great thought, but I think further investigation is needed to find out how this could be implemented so we provide good customer service. We want to get the customer wanting to join Scouting, reconnect with the movement, donate money, etc. to get to the right person as quickly as possible, otherwise they may give up. Good thought.