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As we move toward mandatory or required training for adult leaders, perhaps we should consider implementing a continuing education requirement. Each leader being required to earn a certain number of CEU's based on their position. CEU's could be earned, for example, by attending Roundtable, a training session, presenting at a training, mentoring a new leader...

Of course this would be dependant on a method of tracking training attendance within Scout-net, an issue which is supposed to be addressed as we move to mandatory training.
our council gets several requests a week (up to several a day at times) for a "complete list of all training in our unit." and currently this is only able to be accomplished by going in to each adult in the unit individually.

We don't want we NEED a report that acts like the Unit Advancement Detail report that will list the adult and then all trainings and awards given.

When we ask region or national reps or the help desk we are told to use the training completed / not completed report which has known flaws and isn't being fixed. also it only lists the basic level training and nothing advanced.
Getting commitments from volunteers to attend an all day Saturday " Day of Training", Pow-wow, or University of Scouting is getting more and more difficult. One of our Cub Leaders forwarded this idea for consideration.
It's a"Brown Bag Scouting" concept. He said why can't we do this over lunch. How about one day a month we host a mini training or info meeting at a Brown Bag lunch.

We could have a Cub Scout and a Boy Scout topic.

For example: Merit Badge Couselor Orientation, Program Planning, Good Den Meetings, Troop Cooperative Games, Building a Pack Committee, Running a Pinewood Derby, Getting the most from Summer Camp, Ceremonies & Recognition, How to conduct a Board of Review, Boy Behavior, Knot Tying, Recruiting the right volunteer, etc. Just to name a few. It might take some time to catch on, but we could reach volunteers without asking them to come out another evening or a Saturday during family time. Cost to the council would be minimal, handouts or a few supplies.
What do you think ?
So we all know that Youth Protection Training (YPT) expires every two years and with out YPT you're not a trained leader.

In the Council I serve, many adults will take YPT, and the other training courses and say "PHEW!! DONE! Note to self, do YPT again in two years" With the busy lives we all run, so many of us are forgetting that our two years are up and we need to 'recertify'.

Can we incoroprate some type of 'alert email' to Scouters whose YPT is about to run out? Maybe a month before it's experiation date, send the Scouter an email with a link to the website reminding them it's time to do the training again, taking about the importance of YPT, and again thanking them for their service and commitment to the BSA.

Then incorporate some type of follow up email if they don't do YPT again one week from expiration date.

Just a thought. Sometimes e-reminders are a pain...other times they're a blessing
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As more and more trainings are put on the internet for leader training, we need a quick and easy method for staff to be able to download these for use on a laptop without internet connections. Many of our staff conduct trainings at locations without internet connections and they need to be able to use these new tools.
Moderator Comments
10/7/2009
From: James (Jamie) K. Shearer, Department Manager, Program Impact Department

The majority of on-line courses are also available as a DVD for use in areas where internet connections may not be available or connection speed is not fast enough (many of the training course files are too large to download). When “This is Scouting” was introduced as an on-line course, the companion DVD was also introduced as a resource from National Supply. Check-out Scoutstuff.org for additional DVD training titles.
It is my understanding that a volunteers "trained" status in reports is based upon the most recent three trainings they have taken. So as they take more and more courses online and they are added to a persons training record in their profile on ScoutNet, when they take that fourth course (for example Trek Safely) which get's added to the top of their training log, it pushes down in the list one of the required courses for them to be considered trained so ScoutNet changes their status and does not report them as being trained.

We have many Commissioners that are 100% trained but ScoutNet does not report it that way because their last three courses were not the ones they needed to be considered trained for their position.

This needs to be corrected in ScoutNet.
I can't believe that in this day and age we dont have all the training manuals in PDF format available online for the professionals, They have to be in electronic format somewhere since they are printed. We should be making it easier for professionals to have access to all the latest up to date information thats out there.
After speaking to a newly selected district training chair, we decided we should submit the following ideas:

Guide to Safe Scouting: A separate training that takes them through the GTSS and quizzes them on certain things. I make sure that the GTSS is emphasized in our district trainings but it would be great if it were required.

AND...

A new category of training - Safe Scouting.
Under this would include ALL necessary trainings for safety including but not limited to:
Youth Protection
Climb On!
Hazardous Weather
and a new GTSS training
Safe Swim/Safety Afloat, etc.

We could say simply to volunteers, please go online and complete your Safe Scouting training courses. How simple would that be?
Moderator Comments
5/7/09
From: Richard Bourlon, Health & Safety Team Leader

Your ideas on safety training have been forwarded to the Health and Safety Support Committee for review and consideration at their May meeting. Any output from the committee will need to be worked into the BSA strategic plan and an integrated approach developed to implement across the BSA.
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I love the OLC for training - I think the concept is solid and will only get better with time. One thing I have noticed is that many people will sit down and do every training available, not just the ones required for their position. Many of our volunteers want to be as qualified as possible, and the OLC makes it easy for them to see what trainings are available.

I think it would be a great idea to list all trainings that are available for adults there on the OLC page, even if they are required to attend a training to be completed. This would include Leader-Specific training, Introduction to Outdoor Leader Skills, all the way up to Wood Badge.

First, it would educate and inform leaders of what is available and help motivate them to attend additional training. Do not underestimate the power of seeing a dot turn from gray to green.

Secondly, it would give volunteers a way to hold councils accountable for keeping training records accurate. This seems to be a problem almost everywhere, and having correct and accurate training records in ScoutNet would allow both professionals and volunteers to better tailor their programs.
Moderator Comments
5/3/09

From: Gary Butler, National Director, Council Solutions Group

There a lot of training enhancements coming down the pike that will improve the online sites. Your comments will be shared with the task force overseeing them
As a unit commissioner, I encourage hispanic leaders to get involved and get trained. 'This is Scouting' should be available in Spanish as well as other online training modules. Alot of these parents are initially introduced to scouting for the first time when signing up as volunteer. 'This is Scouting' is a huge informational foundation everyone should start with. Like Bob said "the hispanic market is enormous" and we should accomodate their first language.
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If it is not something that the average unit leader can access without someone manually calculating for them, then it should not be a centennial quality item. Either make it available to commissioners and units leaders through MyScouting or come up with alternative requirements.
Moderator Comments
5/3/09

From: Gary Butler, National Director, Council Solutions Group

It may be too late for the Centennial Quality award to make any changes, however beginning in 2011, a whole new unit performance recognition program is being developed that will address the challenges the centennial quality unit award created.
The McKinsey study and reorg plan left out at least 2 major areas: how we govern the web and how we create training. Although training (for youth members, adult volunteers, and employees runs through nearly everything we do, there are no generally agreed upon standards for how it is created, distributed or evaluated. In what is a "learning organization" this seems like an imperative.

What are our most effective training tools? Is "classroom" really the best method for training our professionals? In the age of the web and the multi-purpose cellphone, what are the most cost-effective electronic tools at our disposal? What's emerging that would work better, faster, cheaper? What do we spend on training and what results do we get?

I am NOT suggesting that we create another group or department, instead we need a cross-disciplinary team that would look into our processes and outcomes, and shed some light on one of our core functions as an organization.
Moderator Comments
3/24/09
From: Wayne Brock, Assistant Chief Scout Executive, Chief Operating Officer

John, I agree completely. I will take the lead to see that such a cross-disciplinary team is organized.
My council does all recharters starting Jan 1, but they don't get implemented until March 1. Before handing over the paper charters I'm going through a district membership report (excel spreadsheet) of all my adults blacking out dropped adults, typing in new adults, and changing positions and adding email addresses. I'm doing this so that I can send emails to people to get trained in January and February. If I just hand over the paper charters to the registrar I would essentially just be totally blind for two months until the charters are implemented. Is there a better way to do this? Could National make it so I could access my post-charter roster (with email addresses too please) before it's implemented? Please don't tell me to look in ScoutNET one unit/person at a time with not even a copy/paste feature. This would essentially require me to do the same thing I'm doing now, typing out each change by hand, very time consuming and tedious.
Moderator Comments
3/13/09
From: Gary Butler, Council Solutions Group Director

Mr. Gibbon’s suggestion would appear to address the writer’s request. On-going improvements to the on-line rechartering application should address some of this.
Do we need to create a training module for Scouts and Venturers to smooth their public Service projects? Include how to write proposals, securing building and/or public gathering permits, discuss liability issues, and other sspects of plaaning a project
Moderator Comments
12/16/08
From: Jamie Shearer, Program Impact Department Manager

This is a great suggestion and one that should be incorporated into the next reprinting of the Eagle Project Workbook. Often these are the type of things that are stumbling blocks in the path of Life Scouts as they begin to develop their Eagle Scout projects.
There are plenty of great Girl Scout leaders thoroughout our ranks, and many of them have valuable knowledge and skill that they could share but many of them are turned away by the thought that they will have to retake all of their training.

Why not implement something along the lines of what colleges do when evaluating courses from transfer students? If a leader shows a training syllabus or description of a course they feel is similar to one of our BSA trainings, could we offer them "credit" as universities do? Obviously there are many different training courses offered by the Girl Scouts and BSA, but there are most likely some that are similar enough that a leader could be qualified for either one.
Moderator Comments
This idea has been assigned to the Innovation Team. A meeting and discussion will take place regarding this and the action taken will be updated soon.
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Instead of having a card printed for each individual training program found in the OLC / PAS why not have a training passport that can be downloaded as a pdf, and printed. It would have all training that the individual had completed in one spot, show dates and expirations. Business card size (folded) would be great. Brand it with the BSA logo!

As an added benefit it would also inable volunteers and scouts to "check" to see that training not done in the OLC was properly credited.
Moderator Comments
11/26/08
From: Jamie Shearer, Program Impact Department Manager

A record of training completed is currently available through every volunteer’s “My Scouting” account, or the council may print a person profile from the ScoutNet system to show a record of training for each volunteer.
Providing an e-mail address on reports listed under Membership Reports (Merit Badge Counselor by Badge, Training Completed / Not Completed, etc.) would allow us to contact volunteers quickly through the e-mail merge feature in Microsoft Word to let them know what trainings they have completed or which merit badges they are qualified to teach. This would allow us to contact a much larger percentage of our volunteers via e-mail rather than spending money on postage for all volunteers.

Currently in order to obtain an e-mail address for one of these reports, one has to perform a query in Access or similar SQL program that matches the individuals Person ID number to a registrant print selection.
Moderator Comments
12/13/08
From: Linda Fleming, Project Manager, Administration Group

These are valid suggestions and will be added to the project list.
It would be wonderful if we would be able to look up a specific unit and see what leaders and trained and what leaders are untrained in a specific unit through MyBSA. It would also be nice to see what specific courses they've had and what one's they need. If it lists a course they've had there should be a date next to it as well saying when they took the course.

Right now you can look up an entire districts training statistics or look up a certain position and see who is trained and untrained, but no way to look up an entire unit.

I would like to easily print off easy-to-read reports to share with my units of which of their Top Leaders, Direct Contact Leaders, etc. have taken which trainings.
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I would like to easily print off easy-to-read reports to share with my units of which of their Top Leaders, Direct Contact Leaders, etc. have taken which trainings.
The National Association for Interpretation is a non-profit organization that trains and supports professional and amateur interpreters in natural and cultural history. Their training covers reseach, thematic lesson planning and presentation. Many of my volunteers talk about these points in planning meetings but none of them seem to have a come basis of training so it is hard to know if the word they are using have the same meaning to each person.

This could also be integrated into the Venture Leader Skills Course, National Youth Leader Training and Woodbadge. There is a cost associated with the certification course but with a national partnership that cost should amount to the materials needed to acheive the certification.

www.interpnet.org